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Jeff Kosseff: Why false speech deserves first amendment protections

January 21, 2024
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The previous journalist defends misinformation within the Trump period and explains why so many journalists are in opposition to free speech.

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Comments 26

  1. @jtwilliams8895 says:
    1 year ago

    When all of the nations “elite” institutions have become completely partisan, it’s not surprising that they feel comfortable putting serious limits on free speech- given that they themselves will likely be making and enforcing the rules. The 1st amendment is a real obstacle for the US political class that few other national governments have to worry about. They will continue to limit the confines of speech until the people punish the politicians who propose these restrictions. And, of course, partisan Democrats will applaud these measures if they help the party win elections. Hate speech and mis/disinformation are completely subjective and will be applied arbitrarily against dissidents

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  2. @dannysullivan3951 says:
    1 year ago

    There are limits to the 1st, including against defamation, incitement (know who that applies to), fraud, porn,obscenity and threats. Mis or dis information certainly falls into some of those categories.

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  3. @homewall744 says:
    1 year ago

    You cannot take an oath to a document. That's just absurd. The oath is to the people and the states that you'll follow the Constitution, which they all reject as soon as they "interpret" it to mean whatever evil they do in our name under it's "authority."

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  4. @reddirtwalker8041 says:
    1 year ago

    He recommends media literacy, which I have heard numerous times from other people. Ok fine…. how? He then goes on to explain about looking for credible/accurate sources.

    To this I say….NO SH!T Sherlock!

    What is a credible source? Over the last 7 years since 2016, we have seen every source I can think of discredited from the credible list. The lies of Russia Gate, COVID, and Trump in general from every major media source shows this.
    There is a reason every major polling organization has media trust in the tank.

    Media literacy sounds good….if you could trust media in general.

    How well does media literacy work if truth in media is the root of the problem?

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  5. @chandlermccullen3515 says:
    1 year ago

    Liability and slander thats simple…. See if its not true and you can prove it. You win.. i guess you could include civil liabilities…. But no seriously, if libertarians are for limits on free speech. Im with them 👍😢

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  6. @opinionater9388 says:
    1 year ago

    Honestly I have a lot of doubt about the 2020 election. Rather then addressing any of my doubts with investigations, evidence or arguments, they've simply squashed all discussion making me doubt it even more.

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  7. @woodchuck003 says:
    1 year ago

    When Jeff talks about the good thing the Dominion lawyers did I hope he means good in that they want their case.

    If you're someone who advocates for the first amendment the minion lawsuit and infuriate you, bad standard for the future. From what was made public during the lawsuit did not demonstrate malice towards Dominion the company, malice towards certain news host or audience maybe.
    I think it did prove that there were enough people involved in the case that hated Fox News enough that they thought shooting themselves in the foot was a good idea.
    Half of the conspiracy theories about the voting machines we're about an entirely separate company and the one over this, Tucker Carlson, was filmed calling Sidney Powell a liar with zero proof.
    Sidney Powell was the liar with actual malice yet for some reason the Dominion did not see fit to see her strange.
    It's also strange that an advocate for the first amendment doesn't want to call this lawsuit bullshit.

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  8. @VeniVidiVid says:
    1 year ago

    Speech that isn’t prohibited should be mandatory. It’s the only way to be sure.

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  9. @anassbutt1550 says:
    1 year ago

    I don't have an hour to watch the video. In regards to making "false speech" illegal, I'm against it. It would be too easy to declare unliked opinions on entirely subjective matters "false" and therefore illegal.

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  10. @tragicrhythm says:
    1 year ago

    It does seem like in order to have strong first amendment protections that assume people could suss out fact from fiction you would want a population with critical thinking skills and the means to obtain information. It would be useful to know if there are discerning factors between adults who are prone to believing lies and those who aren’t. If education is a factor then it makes sense to teach those skillsets when they’re children. Good interview.

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  11. @DavidPimentel says:
    1 year ago

    It could be argued that much of the political speech is false speech with an intent to do harm. However, the group that has the resources to fight such slander and libel is a small one, and even those can eventually be bankrupt.

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  12. @M4Production says:
    1 year ago

    You should be condemned from any politics for lying.

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  13. @user-mw9ns2bm7v says:
    1 year ago

    I heard Chosen People only, Jews (but only Zionest really) are offered work @ Palantir ie suveliance state censorship technazi bs. Wtbs, when are objectivist gonna do a bunch of shows damning that?

    Why do Objectivists care so much about the Israeli state? It's a technocratic aparthied state, vax passports, mandated injections, heavily regulated, grossly propagandist. They were the worst of the fascist covid agenda, & support censorship abroad, here in Amer no less. They represent the worst of the West & need to be rejected because of it, not followed into the New World Order. Is such a state supported by Objectivism because if it is, I don't want any more objectivism in the US…

    More specifically, if Israel has to take that much freedom to be "safe", than the enterprise is too unacceptable to the local market; in an economic sense I would call it a bubble. Bubbles burst of course, which is bad, but this one is taking our freedoms here in America now, lobbying our govt as well as the market itself ~ with ill gotten gains no less. against our freedom of speech, as well as that govt colluding with our own in the covid agenda, stupidly empowering our Govt & their own. Unbelievable harm & much less freedom going forward being the results.

    In other words, the dog is biting, are you gonna keep it, than you're responsible.

    To be clear, what amt of govt is too much, when do objectivists stand? It is unamerican to suggest there is no line, & it would lack objectivity as if there isn't a bridge too far. The fascist covid agenda brought us a bridge too far as American ideals portend…

    Bottom line, the Israeli, US & other western technazi govts need to fall so we can get their boot off our neck & rebuild. However, here you are, acolytes of Ayn Rand who sought refuge with us, only to support this existing big govt evil set against us, supposedly against your or her principles & definitely against ours.​ (unless you're frauds)

    Otherwise, Objectivism doesn't appear to be conducive w/ American values of small, limited govt. As an American you're supposed to be willing to fight against tyrannical governance, it is what naturalized citizens like Yaron Brook "Ayn Rand Institute" Director swore an oath to do. Perhaps you ought get out, move to Isreal, since you love it so much, go get a vaxpassport, a sex change, & a dunce cap. Your lesser of two evils is too evil for us.

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  14. @DorperSystems says:
    1 year ago

    Error has no rights.

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  15. @junit483 says:
    1 year ago

    Giving false affidavit, false reporting, slander, libel, purjury, and fraud. Adding new laws ending forms of false speech has continued to grow to stop the problems caused by it. As we develope new technologies, so too will there be a need to add protections against new forms of false speech that causes harms to individuals or society. Ill-gotten gains mustn't be allowed if you desire social equality

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  16. @moden321 says:
    1 year ago

    Nick: I was an eagle scout.
    Thank you for your service.

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  17. @KrunoslavStifter says:
    1 year ago

    "Why false speech deserves first amendment protections" That makes zero sense. Government issues protections and restrictions and goverment will always favor speech it gives it more power or groups that support big goverment and limit others. The liberal brain dead idea that there are competing groups who want the same outcome just different ways of getting there is not only factually false, its absolutely mental. Its suicide on steroids. Something liberals, the only group in history that favors the out group over in-group, just cannot or will not understand. Liberalism is an ideology of western suicide.

    Think about the last 7 years:

    -Gay marriage legalized
    -2 yrs later Bruce becomes Caitlyn
    -A yr or so later people use They/Them
    -Another year later you see a tranny for the first time
    -You’re told if “you’re not affirming your genociding”
    -Nashville happens

    This can’t continue. Slippery slope is undefeated. Its mental.

    “A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.”
    ― Robert Frost

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
    ― William F. Buckley

    “Liberalism has failed, not because it fell short, but because it was true to itself. It has failed because it has succeeded. As liberalism has become more fully itself, as its inner logic has become more evident and its self contradictions manifest, it has generated pathologies that are at once deformations of its claims, yet realizations of liberal ideology.

    A political philosophy that was launched to foster greater equity, defend a pluralist tapestry of different cultures and beliefs, protect human dignity, and of course expand liberty in practice generates titanic inequality, enforces uniformity and homogeneity, fosters material and spiritual degradation, and undermines freedom.”

    ― Patrick Deneen, Why Liberalism Failed (2018)

    Reminds me of what someone said. Liberalism delivered what it promised, but it was the opposite of what most expected.

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  18. @RobertLanden1 says:
    1 year ago

    I'm surprised free speech doesn't require a license and a fee just like everything else.

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  19. @donwold1622 says:
    1 year ago

    "Journalists" are calling for limits to the First Amendment rights because THEY want to control the narrative at all times.

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  20. @thetimebinder says:
    1 year ago

    So, fraud should be protected speach?

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  21. @SeedsofEcofrog says:
    1 year ago

    We must never forget when they coerced the children into being used as shields to temporarily and marginally "protect" adults.

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  22. @weibullguy says:
    1 year ago

    Let's be honest, propagandists will always have a problem with the 1A. Journalists never will. If someone writes or speaks words for a living and they have a problem with the 1A, maybe they're not really a journalist.

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  23. @CK-jd7wo-test says:
    1 year ago

    False speech is incredibly dangerous especially in this day and age where people desperately want to live in their own bubble. But not having free speech is even more dangerous.

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  24. @NWDood says:
    1 year ago

    However, if someone is trying to purposely deceive us, that someone needs to stand trial

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  25. @NWDood says:
    1 year ago

    Define "false speech".
    Just another tool used by government to censor

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  26. @fearthehoneybadger2914 says:
    1 year ago

    Freedom of speech was put in the Bill of Rights for a reason.

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