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Prepping for Collapse vs Building the Future (Darkage-ism vs Apocalypticism)

December 16, 2023
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On this thought-provoking dialogue, we analyze variations between individualistic “preppers,” apocalypticists who consider the …

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  1. @danielr5343 says:
    2 years ago

    You guys + Lex Friedman + Joe Rogan are the only podcasts I have watched full episodes of, jolly good job!

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  2. @travisbplank says:
    2 years ago

    Both of these are byproducts of the discomfort caused by the will to live. It's cope. Dark Agerism is a mixture of a desire to maintain control and the arrogance to think youre the one who knows how to fix it. Apocolypticism is cope hoping to regain control from a society that seems endlessly powerful, unfair, and suffocating. But REALITY is suffocating. Eventually youre no longer the headlights and you become the rabbit. Better never to have been, right?

    Unless you believe in a God at the end of time from which all objective value/meaning is derived. Then youre wrong, vut at least youre happy and productive.

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  3. @AlexMathersFilms says:
    2 years ago

    On spouses, what about the no fault divorce system that incentivises many wives to get a divorce for cash and prizes? Seems to be a pretty powerful force to pull couples apart to me.

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  4. @Zamicol says:
    2 years ago

    "Toxic masculinity came out of the mythopoetic men's movement meaning suppressing masculinity"? Do you have a source?

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  5. @GeraldSmallbear says:
    2 years ago

    I used to be annoyed that your thumbnails had women in their underwear for no reason but now that they're trans-inclusive I no longer mind.

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  6. @H0lyH0g says:
    2 years ago

    So help me clarify something. The dark age you’re talking about is the population collapse from low birth rates and end of the growth economy? When is this coming roughly?

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  7. @Afgnwrlrd says:
    2 years ago

    Yarvin doesn't say to have a hereditary monarchy. He says to have a CEO that can be replaced by "shareholders" whenever they are not useful anymore. It's hard to enforce if the CEO controls the police & courts, so he goes into strange solutions like the shareholders having crypto keys that control something important in the state.

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  8. @chrisathanas says:
    2 years ago

    In a world without men, society is no longer supported sustainably

    Maybe consider returning men to society and it will be saved

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  9. @billusher2265 says:
    2 years ago

    Interview Tucker Max on his viral article doomer optimism

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  10. @therearenoshortcuts9868 says:
    2 years ago

    "embrace the pain, it is the only way"

    – Oenomaus, Spartacus

    Reply
  11. @benakovasger says:
    2 years ago

    Would you be willing to make a video about supply chains and logistics? If you think it might be helpful, and if you have time.

    Hope you have a good day.

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  12. @fanOmry says:
    2 years ago

    1:26.

    Common misconception.

    Judaism isn't coumting toward the end of the world, but to a time of prosparity as the Mashiach will be among us.

    Christians are those who expect a destruction.

    Possibly because their God on Earth did not really do his Job.
    That means that is the Actual Mashiach comes, he will be a living proof they worship a false god, as that is too hard on their egos, they frame that as a dedtructive cataclism, and that their real god will come and beat the actual mashiach.

    Basically a lot of spite.

    But yeah, Jewish End of days cults were always This is bad enough, G-d is comming to help us now.
    Any day now…

    It is an expectation of a coming utopia.

    Not hell on earth.

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  13. @AkiRa22084 says:
    2 years ago

    Many bunkers do make a community.

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  14. @AkiRa22084 says:
    2 years ago

    Playing Fallout makes you a prepper.

    Reply
  15. @x-winger9387 says:
    2 years ago

    If you aren’t seeking to build a “prepper” community who are your children going to have as husbands or wives?

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  16. @loniousmonk says:
    2 years ago

    Your guys’ take on COVID in the Pragmatist’s Guide to Relationships was so absolutely awful. You completely missed the fact that the media was deliberately fear-signalling and so misrepresenting that for example organ damage from COVID would be a legitimate fear for a young healthy person. If you had looked at any of those studies or just thought about it, you would realize that basically any infection can cause organ damage in a critically defenseless body, which is what all these organ damage patients were. Same problem where CFR was wildly scarier than IFR and everyone knew this, but let themselves be brainwashed for whatever reason.

    The worst thing though is how you claimed it should not have been upsetting for pro-natalists. I mean, in my circles, it was maybe good because in the end it increased mortality-salience because we could see institutions failing and we were driven to find like-minded people who didn’t want to accept pharmaceutical scam-juice being coerced on us and our children. But for the broader population now, you just need to look at how disastrous this period was for fertility, and how much the juice itself as well as stress hurt fertility.

    And culturally, it taught young people that saving granny from dying a few months earlier was more important than their ability to discover themselves and socialize IRL. There could be nothing more anti-natalist, than obsessing over deaths of frail old people, and actively policing and shutting down every form of IRL social life for teenagers and young adults.

    Did you guys take the juice or juice your kids? I guess you know now about the DNA contamination? Not worried about DNA fragments incorporating into germ line cells?

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  17. @edytatehrani3934 says:
    2 years ago

    American prepper movement is based on Christian protestant apocalyptic beliefs. Protestant Christians in America believe not in the complete end of this world, but in the end of the current world system ( end of this age). They also believe that before the end of this age happens with return of Jesus, there will be a dark age in the form of the reign of the Antichrist who will be leading a global tyrannical empire with one financial system and that he will be intensly persecuting Christians and anyone else who doesn't buy into his system. So, this apocalyptic view doesn't remove personal responsibility and fuels prepping in form of having self- sustainability for individuals, families, and churches. It also involves creating alternative economy.

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  18. @donniedewitt9878 says:
    2 years ago

    25:00 I would disagree with your criticisms of yarvin here(as a side note I would love to hear you expanding on the cultural differences between you and him). Yarvin’s contention is that if you make the cycling of the leader to easy you’ll eventually just end up with whoever runs the circulation system ruling through proxy and ending right back to an managerial oligarchy. Secondly there’s plenty of examples of absolute monarchs ruling amazingly past only a decade. Augustus ruled till his death and brought 50 years of peace in rome, which previously had a civil war almost every decade during the republic. Fredrick the great rule till his death, same for the sun king of France, suliman the magnificent, Peter the great; and for a modern example you can count Lee Kuan yew of Singapore, he effectively ruled till his death and Singapore is basically his personal creation. This is not even taking into account embryo selection and crispr where you can just “build a king” exclusively selecting for high IQ and low neuroticism and select against negative traits associated with arrogance

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  19. @macavelli8905 says:
    2 years ago

    Some good points spoken

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  20. @AncientRylanor69 says:
    2 years ago

    🍉🍏🎀🎉🚫🚭🚱➡🔃👠🥾👑

    Reply
  21. @ryanmcelroy433 says:
    2 years ago

    Is he drinking Coors Light? Haha awesome! Cheers 🍻

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  22. @everydaycamping says:
    2 years ago

    60% to 80% of the US government is following the principles of an apocalyptic death cult.

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  23. @aldoushuxley5953 says:
    2 years ago

    Can you explain why Science Fiction as a Genre is so pessimistic?
    That does not really fit with the "the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice" Whig view of progressives.

    They see the past as evil, and see a direction in history ("We are on the right side of history"…), and yet in SciFi, usually, the future is even more bleak.

    The only obvious exception I can think of is Star Trek outside of DS9. And it is not like all scifi writers are closeted right wingers. They seem to have the same politics as do most writers. So why is our collective fiction so pessimistic about the future, has this always been the case, and how does this fit to the progressive Whig view of history?

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  24. @KEDAMONO. says:
    2 years ago

    I love the lighting difference 😂 He is in a dark room almost brooding. Then she is in bright well lit space wearing mostly white colors. Its like Angel and Devil on our shoulder lol

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