LIVE | Apple River stabbing trial: Nicolae Miu – Day 2

When an angry mob is attacking, and you can't reason with them, and you are completely outnumbered, and then they push you, punch you several times, taunting, screaming, and knock you down multiple times into the water where you could drown if knocked unconscious….

You are in a deadly situation. Instincts tell you there is no way other than to defend yourself by any means necessary.

I complete sympathy for the man who was attacked by the crowd.

I have no sympathy for the teens and the other adults that ganged up on him for absolutely no reason and ended up wounded and worse.

A mob of teens or young adults targeting a single helpless person is one of the scariest, most dangerous situations you can be in, especially as an older man who is in poor health and having already had quadruple bypass heart surgery like the man in this case.

Edit: The teens were also drunk and high underage while they attacked him.

So the prosecution thinks that Dante could’ve heard the kids calling for help from across the river but we can’t hear it on the video & the kids are standing right next to the camera ?
I don’t think so….not possible

So Dante is claiming that he …
“heard the cries for HELP from the children who looked 13yo -17yo
“He had a .119 BAC but wasn’t drunk & only had 2 Beers”
“ Also had 2 Shots that were given to him by a stranger”
“ Dad said POST UP BOYS & find out what’s going on”
“ 3 separate times he said Mui made a SWIFT MOTION …today, for the 1st time he changed it to a “ PUNCH”
“ Told police that he LAYED HIM OUT”

Sorry Dante, you didn’t help the States case, you hurt it.
And you’re not the “ Hero” you think you are.

Oh F me, SO SAD and heart breaking to see this mom talk about her son. Having a 17 yr old and to even think of being in that position I can not fathom. It makes me mad that these kids behaved in the way they did and it ultimately resulted in injuries and death. DANG IT!! I as a mom would be mortified watching my kids behaving that way but it does not mean he should have lost his life. But I know that was not the intentions😔 just such an unnecessary situation! Why did everyone continue doing what they were doing even when they saw he had a small pocket knife…I don’t understand that!!

I’m only on day 1 part but please can you let this man free and let him apologised to the the family of the kid who died that he he didn’t intend to kill him let those liars be on the trial for assaulting , humiliating an old man trying to find a lost phone

Damn people, you just pick a side, and that's all you care about.This case is crazy tho be careful out there.

Dante looks like he’s wearing his dad’s jacket

The 2nd witness is just plain lieing and seems so confident about his testimony 😂🤣, all these teens were provoking this guy, he never once said a word to them. They antagised him, bullied him, called him names.

None of these teens were scared or felt threatened.

Thus guy defended himself legitally, is it unfortunate that someone was killed absoultey its tragic but maybe they shouldn't have been provoking and bullying this poor guy. No reasons to call him names if they don't know him.

These teens should be charged with assault for pushing him into the river. 2ft is enough to drown in.
They should be charged with underage drinking and smoking weed as well.

If he hadn’t called the man a pedo, raper & said he was wanting to have s*x with little girls, this may have all been avoided.

Everyone in this case was wrong. These children were disorderly, disrespectful, and blatantly obnoxious. They should have mips, etc. But under no circumstances should people have been stabbed. You have no right to ridicule people like they did. But he had no right to stab or slash people either. They all should be guilty for their part. It was everyone's actions that caused that sensless death and the injuries and surgeries needed. There is no guilty vs innocent. Everyone is guilty.

When did Madison giver her testimony ???

Here ya go…from a lawyer. Miu had a right to push or punch her for yelling in his face if he felt threatened:

Can you punch someone yelling in your face?
“Yes you can. If you feel threatened you (words alone are usually not enough, they have to be threatening to do something or acting like they may come after you) can respond with reasonable force. Meaning if they push you then you can push back or throw a punch.”

The video shows both Madison and Rhylly had been pushing against Mr. Miu’s arms and chest for AWHILE. Then Madison thinks she has the right to grab Mr. Miu’s arm and pull on him. She has no right to have her hands on him at all. For all he knew either of those women could have had a knife and pulled it on him, as erratic and threatening as they were acting.

Cockfield, I hope you feel really good about yourself. You started all of this, stirred the flames, and your punk friends joined in. You’re a disrespectful punk, who tries to suck up with your yes Sir b.s. You sure sound different than your hooping, hollering, stirring the pot self. Give me a break..you were never scared. 🙄 You were busy starting trouble with someone minding their own business, so you could video some content for social media and get paid! I hope the jury sees thru you and your punk friends. None of you were scared. You were all laughing having a real fun time slandering an innocent man. You got your friend killed with your stupidity…hope you can live with that. You’re evil and a liar.

"he said he was looking for a little girl" hmmmm kind of sounds like "i'm looking for my snorkel"
Jawahan, in that video that he so graciously provided us…such an instigator. If he would have just shut the eff up and WALKED AWAY maybe that other teenager would still be alive. And man oh man, we are able to see this, cuz we get to see the video!!! PLAY BY PLAY! So it's not like anyone there can say "You weren't there!" because Mr. Football man gave us the video! Way to go Ace! I really hope you feel guilty, because, it's your fault. You have a VERY LOUD and big mouth. So sad, that your "best friend" died because you couldn't SHUT UP.

Whats with the constant statements by defence saying "witness X said this would you agree with that" like is that allowed? The prosecution is objecting. But ive just never heard this before and so much of it. I get why theyre doing it cos they dont even care if the objection is sustained cos the jury get to hear it, and it forces the hand of the current witness to tell the truth or at least a proper version, in fear of the unknown being testified to previously.

In any case. These little scrotebag kids CREATED THIS SITUATION and more needs to be done to make an example of instigators of this tik tok generation who think there are no consequences. This guy may go to to jail but you knkw what, their friend is now dead. They did this. They did. They knew what screaming "pedophile" meant. Everyone knows.

This fucking defense attorney is a piece of garbage. I wouldn't hire him if he were the last lawyer on the face of this earth.

He asks the same question 4 & 5 times to each witness. He tries to change their words & he tries to change their testimony. He'll say ….correct? Right? After he's already said no. And THE WORST PART is that he's doing this in front of the jury as if they can't see what he's doing. He's focused on what people have in their hands, if someone's glasses have fallen off… Does he not know that drunk people tend to have resilience because they are not as aware of what's going on? This is why they usually don't get hurt in car accidents. I have literally seen a drunk get punched and not drop his drink. And he shouldn't be concentrating on the way drunk people act when his client was drunk too!

Human garbage. Allow me to tell you all what exactly happened. Young boys like this usually have fun when they drink. Old men who drink are usually mean drunks. ESPECIALLY when they grew up around violence – like a country like Romania which is corrupt AF and violent. And it was even more corrupt & violent when MIU was being raised by his father who was also Romanian, and I'm sure wasn't a nurturing figure because men in that region are never raised to be. PERIOD. FACT. END OF DISCUSSION.
This man aggressively approached young boys & grabbed their floats. And when they emarrassed him, his thought process was 'I'll be damned if these punk kids are going to intimidate me' or 'I'll show these little assholes' because NO ONE likes teenagers today. They are entitled assholes who are so stupid their brain barely functions. And that's exactly how MIU felt, so he stabbed them.

Bottom line – HE'S the adult, HE should've walked away. And if it's 18 people against me? My ass is walking away. I am not staying around to get jumped, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS! EVERYONE IS FUCKING NUTS and you just never know what's going to happen. So this older, Romanian, drunk just thought he was going to show the punk kids who is boss. And everyone knows teenagers like that, white, young boys, are snowflakes. Which is why they were scared at first, weirded out and had absolutely no weapons between all of them. And pot calms you down. They just wanted to 'hang', and this piece of shit wanted to stab someone because aggression is in his nature. And you can say that about ANY PERSON who doesn't walk away when 18 people are screaming at him to leave! If he was so fragile and scared, he would've left. HE WOULDN'T HAVE STAYED AROUND TO PUNCH A WOMAN IN THE FACE! FUCKER.

And lastly….my father had a quadruple bypass. Google images of quadruple bypasses. They cut you from between the breasts to your navel, they break your sternum (breastbone) , they crack your ribs open, pull your heart out of your body and you are basically dead. Someone tell me where that mans scar is? Because I don't see one. Maybe i just can't see it, but it honestly doesn't look like he has one. And most people are very self-conscious about it because it's LONG, DARK & UGLY. And I have never known anyone to go shirtless even years after a quadruple bypass because the scar never really fades. All of the blood is out of your body while your chest is open, so the scar heals differently than any other scar because it's the only time an incision goes without blood running through the veins around it to heal it, due to the fact that your blood is being recycled during the surgery in a machine because there's no heart in your body to pump the blood to circulate it. And circulation is very important to one's healing processes.

I think he's a liar. Just like he lied to the cops afterward, like he had no idea what was going on. A person who was so scared for their life that they JUST, an hour before, had to STAB multiple people in self-defense, does not lie to the cops to the extent of absolute denial of anything happening. He's an evil , lying murderer! And I would bet a toe he has killed someone before, in Romania. And his father probably did too.

And his attorney is almost worse than he is. A waste of skin!

These witnesses got together.