Colorado’s Supreme Courtroom heard arguments in a authorized case difficult former President Donald Trump’ eligibility to be on the …
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The phrases "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution" and "support the Constitution" are similar in their commitment to uphold the principles and laws outlined in the United States Constitution, but they have different connotations and contexts.
1. "Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution": This phrase is most famously known as part of the oath of office taken by the President of the United States. It implies a proactive and vigorous responsibility. "Preserve" suggests maintaining the Constitution in its current state and preventing decay or degradation. "Protect" implies guarding against external threats or challenges. "Defend" suggests a readiness to fight against attacks or challenges to the Constitution. This oath signifies a deep commitment to maintaining the integrity, principles, and laws of the Constitution, and to actively counter any threats against it.
2. "Support the Constitution": This phrase is often used in oaths taken by other government officials, including members of Congress, the military, and various federal employees. While it also implies a commitment to uphold the Constitution, the term "support" can be seen as somewhat less active than "preserve, protect, and defend." It suggests a commitment to hold up and maintain the principles of the Constitution and to act in accordance with its laws and principles. It's more about adherence and less about taking an active role in defending against threats.
In summary, while both phrases express a dedication to upholding the Constitution, "preserve, protect, and defend" suggests a more active and possibly combative stance in safeguarding the Constitution against threats, whereas "support" implies a commitment to maintain and adhere to the Constitution's principles and laws.
Right, so it makes sense that everyone else — except POTUS — should have to abide by the 14th Amendment. Tap dancing @22:00 – slapped down at 25:20 – zoom in 28:09 that shows he knows he is full of BS – 29:48 "If the ENTIRE nation chooses someone to be president who is an insurrectionist than it's fine if he commits insurrection." Yes folks, this is their argument now. Laughable and the Justices see his BS clearly, just look at their faces. The guy actually argues that you can't elect someone who is 27 but you can allow a president to commit insurrection. Also it doesn't matter what anyone's definition of insurrection is, including this guy's after the ratification of Constitution, it's what the original framers meant by it. Anything after is irrelevant, One other thing, trump claims he ordered troops out to put the down the violence (he didn't) but that action would have fallen under the Insurrection Act. So Trump admits, indirectly, that it was therefore an insurrection. I predict failure here and heading to Supreme Court…
Hey MAGAs, If Trump won the election as you are so fond of spouting, then he's serving his second term. In which case, he can't be elected again. Moreso, he can't appear on any ballot. 22nd Amendment. Right?
We need Trump badly all these presidents just talk God will bless him
Wow. It is simple trump did cometh treason and for that can't ran for president of United Sated Of America. ..
Vote Blue 💙 down the ticket in 2024
No beating around the bush!!!!
National Archives
14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Civil Rights (1868)
Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove disability.such
Even if Trump is Banished from Primary Ballot, he can't be barred from the General Election Ballot if Trump becomes the nominee.
If Trump is the nominee, he can't be banished from the ballot because of his running mate (VP). Even if Trump disqualified, his running mate isn't (VP). You have to remember that the Constitution says that if the President FAILS to qualify, the VP shall be President. So even if Trump is disqualified, he still can't be barred because his running mate would qualify to be the President.
20th Amendment Section 3
"If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;….."
Trump VP would have to be disqualified to completely banish him from the ballot.
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If it had no purpose but a rallys .Rallys are held in one place .Why didn't the Rally stay where they were ! Hearing speeches in stead of taking it the capital.What was the intent behind .X President Trump Said now go to the Capital and fight like hell ore your not going to a Country anymore ..They could have stay at the rallys Trump called for fighting to take the country back Fight Like Hell ..
The judge called th🎉e orange Satan as an insurrectionist so he swore to uphold the constitution, different wording or not, he’s still a traitor
Put trump in jail
Total BS
GO 14 MINUTES IN AND LISTEN….!!!!! 💥
Stop trying to split the legal system you are only contributing to the devishion of the country. This only leads to one outcome
They got him now.. no rational basis. Again if trump hadn’t went to calling in his people who came in and trashed the capital and the peoples lives that were cut short. And the feel mr trump is exemp and can do that. This guy basically feels anything can be done as long as it is his way. Not 5he correct way.
He is trying to say the wording about the president doesn’t include him. If that is true why now.? Then the no I didn’t make or pledge an oath to the constitution… then thought see him give oath. Live. What the hell.. nonsense.
can see Trump with his story about the snake, You knew i was a snake when you took me in. You knew I was a dictator when you took me in. HA HA HA
I was absolutely appalled when my closest family and some of my friends rooted for Trump in 2016, the Right Winger with a vocabulary of a 5-year old toddler. But I have to try and suspend my dislike for Trump as a person to have even a shred of objectivity, and it's pretty clear that none of the judges in that room have done this. " – He also said "fight" about 20 times". Um… no, he actually said "fight" 200 000 000 000 times. All you have to do is watch that video 200 000 000 000 times, – and voila, – clearly that was a "call to violence". 😂As far as the language of Trump's speeches, – you really need to compile a different dictionary if you wanted to make a case that he is asking his supporters to use violence. When it comes to insurrection, – it's equally important to understand what MEANS Trump actually had at his disposal to prevent the "peaceful transition of power". How it could have been REALISTICALLY achieved without powerful co-conspirators in the key areas of United States' executive and legislative governments and without sophisticated, detailed planning of what each actor does and when. It is childish to believe that a comparatively small crowd of mostly unarmed protesters, some of whom later turned to violence could actually prevent Biden's inauguration.
United States, after all, is not a failing state like Ukraine was in 2014 where a mob in Donbass practically effected a secession from Ukraine. But even in Donbass in 2014, not only was it a much larger crowd, not only was it far better armed with automatic and semi-automatic weapons, grenades, etc. It was far better organised and it had to take over a large number of government offices in order to succeed. If like me, you are not satisfied with Miriam Webster's definition, – then watch Simon Ostrovsky's "Russian Roulette" in VICE News,- the part about Russian Spring in Donbass. Because this is what a REAL insurrection looks like. Calling January 6th an insurrection is a lot like calling Common Cold a "plague", or a janitor's spilled bucket "a tsunami" . There is zero chance it would have worked, and there's zero chance that even someone as intellectually challenged as Trump could possibly believe that it would. However, Trump's counsel is wasting his breath. It's pretty clear that these people have made up their minds before the trial even started. Claiming that ends justify the means and that in order to prevent an authoritarian leader from assuming power it's necessary to set up a precedent which would effectively criminalize political speech from that moment onward, seems like too high a price. Kind of like Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.
Colorado is Colorado is crazy they smoke too much
Ok, let’s say for argument sake Trump only incited a riot, a riot whose intention was to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Aka an insurrection. Would Trumps inaction to stop it for 3 hours constitute giving aid or comfort to an insurrection?
When one of the judges asked the Trump lawyer the rationale for not including the president in clause three of the 14th Amendment, he really had nothing.
TRUMP 2024 🙏🙏🙏
Look the Supreme Court shouldn't have to rule about Trump. Take the precedence of what happened to Jefferson Davis as an example • Section 3 states that anyone who has ever taken an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and later "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," is disqualified from holding any federal office.
As President of the Confederate States of America, Jefferson Davis had clearly engaged in rebellion against the U.S. government.
Consequently, upon the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, he was automatically disqualified from holding any federal office.
While Davis was never formally charged or tried under Section 3, his legal team argued that the disqualification clause itself constituted punishment, effectively preventing further prosecution for treason. This argument was ultimately accepted by the courts, and Davis was never brought to trial.
Davis was never charged or tried but was still banned and it was accepted by the courts! The courts should follow procedure and just accept Trump is prevented by the 14th amendment from holding office.
First of all the issue of whether Donald Trump engaged insurrection is NOT the subject of the appeal, as the lower court already established that as fact.
The appeal is about the lower court's decision that the President is not considered an Officer of the United States.
This opinion is clearly erroneous, pursuant to the Constitution which states in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8:
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
In this instruction there is clearly a call to faithfully execute the office of President and to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.
Donald Trump took this oath though his Attorney would have us believe that he did not.
Is DJT's lawyer trying to claim that DJT from 2017 to 2020 is a fake president?
Trump being on the ballot is a crisis
This lawyer is a perfect example of a predatory lawyer. His prey is common sense and the Constitution he implements his predation by attempting to gaslight this court.
The gist of his argument is that the President IS NOT BOUND BY THE CONSTITUTION while at the same time HE MUST PRESERVE AND DEFEND IT.
In other words HE IS A KING SITTING ABOVE THE CONSTITUTION.
The President enters on the Execution of his Office. How can it be that he is not an Officer under the constitution of the USA?
United States Constitution Article II, Section 1, Clause 8
Before he enters on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
This is crazy. Trump said to go PEACEFULLY! They are making things up as they go!! They don’t mention Pelosi or her role in why people were able to get in the WH. Why so many FEDs? Ive seen the tapes… haven’t they?
If the President is not an Officer, why do they take an 'Oath Of OFFICE'?
Sue The State Of Colorado If President Trump's Name Is Taken Off Ballot…January 6th Was A SETUP!!
This is USA. Leave Trump on ballot!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm voting and my family is voting for Trump!
A person or persons can "fight like hell" through their protestations. The Jan. 6th videos show a total different story than the media has led people to believe. All those tapes of Jan. 6th stand as documentation on it's own. The Prosecution here seems to be in disregard of these tapes and still draws on what "news outlets" have fed the people for the last 3 years.
No, no, no. There were people already down at the House protesting and being incited to storm the Capitol before Trump was even finished with his speech.
Oh my goodness look at all these keyboard lawyers on here😂
Trump's lawyer knows how to shovel the brown stuff.
Totally hooked!
To summarize, ANY future president can do the exact same thing and that person is immune.
Is that fhe America we want, really?
Be there. It will be wild.
What a joke the US justice system has become. Trump incited and engaged in an insurection. He started the big lie with no proof. He stirred up the people by these lies. He invited them to the elipse told them to fight like hell or there won't be a countey. Then as the violence unfolded, Trump waited for the crowds to do their thing in hopes of intimidating Mike Pencefrom performing his duty and certifying the election. Trumps desire was to stop the process with the hopes that he could cease the presidency for himself again.
You couldn't pay me enough to try and make this argument.
Trump said fight like hell and he would be with them in the Capitol.. 🤷♀️
Insrrectioists cannot be in ANY public office
So this lawyer explains at length that the writers of 14.3 were very careful with their wording, but when he is asked for their rationale to exclude the president he can't come up with one?
Terrible audio and video… sheesh
That 3 hour argument is annoying.
14C3 DOES NOT apply to President Trump. It SHOULD but it doesn't.
It was an oversight by the drafters. When the drafters passed 14C3, they assumed that anyone who would want to run for President was a former lawmaker, military, governor, etc. who had previously taken the oath to support the Constitution therefore felt is not necessary to include the Presidental Oath as well in 14C3. Trump was never a lawmaker, military, governor, etc and he took only one oath, The Presidential Oath, which is not cited in the 14C3, which uses different wording. The drafters unwillingly gave Trump an exemption to 14C3.
Judge Wallace recognized this oversight but said that it was not the court's role or responsibility to correct the oversight. She gave Trump the benefit of the doubt. The petitioners in Colorado do have a solid remedy. They can petition Congress to admend 14C3 specifcally to include the Presidental Oath in 14C3 and then sue again.
In much of the debate between the Drafters in regards to 14C3, there is little or no reference of whether the President was to be included as an office or an indvidual to be disqualified. This is of significant notice because of President John Tyler.
President John Tyler had served 1 term as President and completed his term. When the civil war started, John Tyler sided with Confederancy and served political positions within it. John Tyler had indeed disqualified himself under 14C3.
But, you have to remember that when 14C3 was being drafted it was being drafted in contemporary real time. Although it was to be used in the future, it's primary purpose and intent was to deal with te fall out of the Civil War.
President John Tyler was DEAD when the 14C3 was passed, so the drafters did not feel it was neccessary to address the President in 14C3. All the other past Presidents who were still alive were of solid loyalty and were against the Civil War that had just taken place. That being the case, the drafters felt it was not neccessary to consider Presidents as being included in 14C3.
Had John Tyler had still been alive, the drafters may have indeed included the President specifically to prevent John Tyler from running again. In any event, John Tyler was disqualified regardless of his term as President because her was previously a lawmaker and such was included in 14C3 had he still been alive.
But since there no disloyal President living, the idea of including the President an indvidual to be disqualified was not considered. A person to disqualified as being a past President would been in so much he had been a previously lawmaker, military, governor, etc.
Donald Trump was never a lawmaker, military, governor, etc.
The idea of including the President as specific individual was an oversight and was not considered giving Donald Trump a pass due to his specific circumstances.